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posted 24 November 2005 06:07 PM      $post_id   Send New Private Message    Reply With Quote 
Happy thanksgiving for us US people. Not much more to say. just felt like saying it once today.

Peace out.

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Drizzt Do'Urden
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posted 24 November 2005 06:36 PM      $post_id   Author's Homepage   Send New Private Message    Reply With Quote 
I still don't understand what that holiday's about. All I know is it's a national day of gluttony.

So, what are you all supposed to be giving thanks for, and what's with the turkeys?

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posted 29 November 2005 05:31 PM      $post_id   Send New Private Message    Reply With Quote 
Ok a quick history of Thanksgiving.

Since the American colonies were first established there were lots of local days of thanksgiving. All that the tradition is about is a feast to celebrate some local day, usually it was a semi-puritan religious holiday. It was also a reaction by settlers to try and come up with some holidays to fill the up the holiday calendar that they had left behind in the old world. Many times it was toward the end of the harvest because that's when agrarian colonists were most likely to have some suplus food.

In the early and mid 1800s most state governors would declare state-wide days of thanksgiving. Basically, a state-wide day of thanks to the lord for all the blessings that the people of the state had enjoyed & a way for politicians to show off how pious they were.

In the middle 1800s (I want to say 30s - 50s) there was a popular movement to come up with some authentic American holidays. Up to that point only two where widely celebrated: the 4th of July (American independance) and George Washington's birthday. As well as a couple of not widely celebrated veterans holidays.

The first national day of thanksgiving was declared by president Abraham Lincoln to celebrate one of the first major victories of the Union over the Confederacy. Remember the South was winning most of the early battles of the Civil war and Lincoln wanted to rally morale.

The date moved around a bit over the years until it finally settled down to where it is today in the 1900s (I can't remember which President finalized it but I think it was Wilson... actually I'm pretty sure that is wrong because I beleive it didn't get finalized until later in the century).

The turkey comes from two places. First, Benjamin Franklin wanted the turkey to be our national bird because, unlike the eagle, it is unique to North America. And this (I know it sounds tenuous but I'm serious) began the link between turkey's and Americana. Turkeys were commonly eaten throughout American history and it would seem natural that lots of them would be eaten in the various days of thanksgiving.

Here's where I get a little shaky on the history. If I remember correctly some sort of large fowl was common on feast days. The turkey became the national dish when people stopped eating swans and not everybody could hunt down geese thoughout the late fall and winter (migration). So process of elimination helped.

The other advent was the frozen turkey. In the first half of the 20th century (I think between 1960-1930s with the rise of widespread electricity) meat processers found out that turkeys froze well. Their marketers really pushed the turkey=America thing and started to commercialize the holiday so that we usually forget what is about and celebrate it as a general day of Americanness.

Pretty cool that your Thursday turkey celebrates a turning point of the civil war. At least if you're an American.

Peace out Drizzt.

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