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FainFan
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posted 18 January 2007 03:07 PM      $post_id   Send New Private Message    Reply With Quote 
Wow, now you're staying up to do this in real time.

I threw the Cypriot one in there because it (and the whole history of invasion) is one of the bones of contention between Greece and Turkey. It also illustrates an example of when political solutions break down and people resort to extra-political means to get what they want. And it isn't one that a Greek would sympathize with or romanticize. I agree that the Greek Cypriot side (aren't they all Cypriots now?) has acted pretty scrupulously. Its also the kind of red cape that is good to wave in front of Greeks because it is one of the issues in which Greece is most vocal. I have seen Greeks vary in terms of what their response should be and it does have greater implications on Turkey's admission to the EU. To me, it is the hallmark of unintended consequences stemming from extra-political measures.

All religious questions are trick questions! lol. I don't keep up with the holiday calendar well and so I was curious when you and Dalthor would make the flight.

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mashiara
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posted 18 January 2007 10:50 PM      $post_id   Send New Private Message    Reply With Quote 
8.30 in the evening hardly amounts to staying up.


It is not enough to conquer;
one must learn to seduce.
Voltaire


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Tolkon
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posted 24 January 2007 08:09 PM      $post_id   Email Tolkon   Send New Private Message    Reply With Quote 
In referance to the pun im going to through some thing out here. The word gyro was first seen in print around 1970. The first gyro was made in New York city in a Greek orthodox festival. Though Tzatziki(spelling???) is vary Greek and old. Below is my favorite recipe.
Tzatziki Sauce:
16 ounces plain yogurt
1 medium cucumber, peeled, seeded, and finely chopped
Pinch kosher salt
4 cloves garlic, finely minced
1 tablespoon olive oil
2 teaspoons red wine vinegar
5 to 6 mint leaves, finely minced
1. Place the yogurt in a tea towel, gather up the edges, suspend over a bowl, and drain for 2 hours in the refrigerator.
Place the chopped cucumber in a tea towel and squeeze to remove the liquid; discard liquid. In a medium mixing bowl, combine the drained yogurt, cucumber, salt, garlic, olive oil, vinegar, and mint. Serve as a sauce for gyros. Store in the refrigerator in an airtight container for up to a week
Any way just thought id share...
And pitas were invented in persia!


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Sorry my spelling is atrocious please forgive me.


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dalThor
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posted 25 January 2007 04:06 PM      $post_id   Email dalThor   Send New Private Message    Reply With Quote 
Perhaps the first gyro in the States was in the 1970's but I KNOW they have been here for much longer - I'm certain my wife will clarify this fact for us. (Incidently, I didn't look to see if we clarified this in a prior post, the gyros here use grilled pork - not that God-awful beef-lamb amalgam used in the States...incredible. My mouth is watering as I type...)

Just a helpful cooking tip for your tzatziki (good spelling, and yes a very old Greek word) recipe. If you have in your area a store which specializes in Mediteranian or Middle East foods you can buy what they call 'drained' yoghurt. It saves a ton of time and is what we use here.

Fainfan, don't mention Cyprus to any Greeks. When Turkey invaded in 1974 thousands were killed and still several thousand are listed as 'missing'. It was an unprovoked attack on an independent country that was minding its own business. Thousands of Cypriots remain displaced because their homes lie in yet occupied territory. Greeks have very long memories, especially when it comes to the Turks. Here, after nearly 600 years they still call it Constantinopolos. I mean, Istanbul. There's no love lost between the two countries.

editted for typo, sorry...

edited by dalThor on January 25th, 2007

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Tolkon
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posted 26 January 2007 09:37 AM      $post_id   Email Tolkon   Send New Private Message    Reply With Quote 
No such luck I live in a tiny town in Minnesota. Red wing (you may have a pair of our shoes) to be exact. So no good mediterranean groceries around here. Anyway if it wasn’t for the factory or the casino there would not be a town. And no I don’t work at the factory.
To clarify what I meant by invented in New York is the way it is known now and the cooking method of making the lamb (for better words) Tight packed meatloaf. And here it is a pure lamb loaf. In fact I travel 80 miles every year to go to a Greek festival.


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mashiara
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posted 27 January 2007 02:30 AM      $post_id   Send New Private Message    Reply With Quote 
The correct name, Husband Dear, is Constantinoupolis, Constantine's City.
Instanbul is a Turkish paraphrase of the ancient Greek "Is tin Poli" which means "To the City".

Greeks DO have long memories. And they hold deep grudges too...

Tolkon, I don't want to start a debate on gyros. I'm just glad to hear you like Greek food well enough to take the extra time to go to the festival.


It is not enough to conquer;
one must learn to seduce.
Voltaire


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FainFan
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posted 25 February 2007 03:35 PM      $post_id   Send New Private Message    Reply With Quote 
waka waka waka. (I miss you Fonzy-bear)

Just saying hey after the down time.

Romance is easy, reality is hard.


(Speaking of Greeks, I miss the days when I could still capitalize Reality and Truth (I heart Aristotle and his golden mean))

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